CRYSTAL COAST TEA PARTY PATRIOTS
MEETING MINUTES OF
15 MAY 2012
Meeting was held at Golden Corral Restaurant, Morehead City, NC
Meeting called to order at 6:00 pm by Chairman BOB CAVANAUGH
Pledge of Allegiance was led by DAVID MCFADYEN
Invocation by STEVEN GUY BEST
Attendance – 23
BOB congratulated the TEA Party for the great work we did at the primary election. We only lost two of our favored candidates: Frank Palombo and Harry Taylor. It is hard to beat an incumbent, so even though we knew our fight for Palombo was an uphill battle, we still gave it our all. And Harry only lost by about 157 votes. If we had been able to switch about 80 voters to vote for Harry in lieu of Elaine, he could have won also. A lot of the problem, as he sees it, is because we didn’t have anyone at most of the precincts of District 5 manning the polls. Someone from the TEA Party to work those precincts might could have made a difference. He feels that Elaine Crittenton is a very knowledgeable woman and may do a good job. If not then we can try to find a TEA Party Patriot to run against her next time and our people working the polls four years from now to vote her out if need be.
BOB said one of our ‘winning candidates’ and soon to be judge….DAVID MCFADYEN is with us tonight. He turned the floor over to Mr. McFadyen who addressed those in attendance.
He said he just wanted to come down tonight and thank you all. He said ‘I traveled around all three counties that day, meeting folks and going to precincts and polls and talking to folks, and especially when I got down here to Carteret County, it was apparent the impact you guys were making. I think I won by 67% of the vote in Carteret County. I was hoping we’d win but I had no expectation that it would come out like that. I have to believe that a lot of that had to do with you all. I was at the polling places and you would see somebody say ’do you need a voting guide – the TEA Party voting guide?’ and the person would say, No, no thanks and the person would then say ’I already got it out of the newspaper’. Either they came and got a copy or they already had it. And I saw this in almost 100% of the people I saw. I wasn’t at the polling places too long, 5, 10 minutes, 20 minutes at a place. You guys made a huge difference for me and I thank you very much. Obviously we gotta do it again in November. We have to run again against the same guy. What we basically did – we dropped one off…Bernie Bush…a great guy. I think he came down and talked to you all. Bernie and I talked….he called me Tuesday night about 11:00 after the results were in and we had a great talk. I think he is going to endorse me and help me out with some of his voters and I’m real impressed with that. Bernie is a top shelf guy. So, it was a great night and I just wanted to come down tonight and thank you guys. I can’t say I am going to be here every meeting between now and August or so when we crank back up but I am going to try to come down at least once a month to see you guys and make sure everything is going well. So, thank you again. It means a lot to me. (Applause)
BOB said just to let you know the Cape Carteret group is meeting tonight at Rib Eyes, starts at 7:00 and I will be rushing down there after our meeting here. Mr. McFadyen said he might just follow him down there. BOB said great, if you don’t mind risking a speeding ticket. Mr. McFadyen said that was all right. BOB said he had Kirby Smith follow him one night and he was sweating bullets.
BOB then called on CLAYTON GILLIKIN. CLAYTON said most of the elections he had had any dealings with on judges…you could vote for more than one judge. He would recommend if that is the case in November that we only vote for one…Mr. McFadyen. Please don’t vote for more than one. We want this man in single shot. BOB said this election would be different…it will strictly McFadyen vs. Smith….and we would only be voting for one.
BOB said before we have the November election, we have the July 17th run off elections that we kind of have to gear up for. He is hoping to get Dan Forrest down here to talk to us. Also Mike Causey. We are working on other folks. Anyway, stand by to man the polls again on the 17th of July. We will have more information forthcoming. If any of these folks are speaking near us, we might want to go and listen to them. It might be at the Republican club or church or something like that. We would like to hear them all.
FRED DECKER asked during the run off, are they going to use just the polls used during early voting? They are not going to use all the precincts are they? BOB said we are waiting to hear from the Board of Elections to find out. It is a lot easier with just four polling places.
HOWARD GARNER said one of the candidates we really need to work hard for is the Insurance Commissioner. ‘As I stated earlier, I didn’t know much about any of them except I think Morgan is a scoundrel. He (Morgan) had a web site, that he has since taken down, where he said the people in Raleigh, Charlotte and Greensboro and all larger cities should not be subsidizing those of us on the coast that owned an ocean front house. For his information those insurance rates are hitting us out here in the poor section too. It is not just the beach front. BOB said a guy named Rex Foster posted on our face book page or maybe the Carteret County Republican face book page, the whole indictment of which the North Carolina Republican Party basically indicted a whole list of charges and basically tossed him (Morgan) out of the Republican Party. BOB said we might want to have a letter to the editor about this indictment by Mr. Foster. HOWARD said he used to talk to Frank Rouse and Frank knew the Republican Party of NC and he pretty much convinced him several years ago that Morgan was a scoundrel and he had to be bad for Frank Rouse to bad mouth a Republican. Let’s face it. BOB said he had forgotten the details of it, but he back stabbed the Republicans but it was pretty much laid out in that article on face book. HOWARD said there were several reasons for us down here to be against him. BOB said our job is to educate the voters and our biggest weapon there is letters to the editor along with out voting guide.
BOB said Judge McFadyen experienced the same thing he had working Morehead Precinct 4 over here at the Baptist Church off 24 and 70. The number of people that came prepared with the newspaper ballot, it was crazy. A lot of folks that didn’t have it, would come over and ask where is the TEA Party guy? They would send them down to the end of the parking lot where BOB was set up. He was right at the entrance and some people would come in the exit. Various members who had worked the polls discussed how many of the voting lists they had passed out. A lot of people ran out of them. HOWARD said we had started with the 200 we had originally gotten, but went back home and ran off 150 more and had used most of them. BOB said he had gotten an email from Norm Sanderson’s campaign manager and she is looking for opportunities for Norm to speak to groups, so he told her to send him on down, that Norm had spoken to us before. She said, ’Oh, yes, you people were very instrumental in helping Norm win his election. As a matter of fact (BOB forgot which poll she was working) she had quit handing out Norm’s material and started handing out our TEA Party list because she felt she had more effect with it.
FRED asked STEVE BEST if he knew what percentage that Amendment passed in Carteret County. STEVE said 81%. FRED said we could thank STEVE for that. He had put his whole heart and soul in promoting that Amendment. All agreed and applauded STEVE’s hard work. HOWARD said he also passed out a lot of our TEA Party recommendations.
BOB said there were some complaints about the TEA Party being overly aggressive. Several told of incidences they had had occur. HOWARD said one of Randy’s supporters was working the poll along side of us on election day. He had commented to us that we had our act down pat and he didn’t see how two people our age (HOWARD and PEGGY) could keep going the way we did. HOWARD told him we truly believed in what we were doing. This opposition guy felt sorry for us standing in the hot sun and called his wife and asked her to bring a couple of beach umbrellas, which when she arrived, he came over and sat one of them up for us. We had a very friendly relationship all day and before we left PEGGY got his name and address so she could send him a Thank You card for the umbrella and his kindness.
ERIC BROYLES said he had gotten and sent out to several of the members the invitation to Randy’s victory party that was cancelled due to Randy being so distraught he was unable to party. HOWARD said he would have been also if he had blown $200,000.00 of his own money and lost. BOB said he had a chance to talk with him over at the poll he was working. He was being somewhat evasive but BOB intercepted him on the way out and introduced himself. He said he told him he just wanted to shake his hand, he ran a hell of a campaign, good luck to him, wished him all the best but he also wished he had come down and talked to us early on. He thought he (Ramsey) had mishandled the whole campaign but that was neither here nor there now but good luck to him. BOB said he seemed to be all right with it. They parted on friendly terms. FRED said he came down to where he was but didn’t even talk to him. BOB said you really had to intercept him. That was the really, really one race we really, really wanted to win because that guy was definitely not the type of personality we wanted up there.
RO THOMPSON said she was in Salter Path and about 9:00 in the morning Ken Jones came down to put his signs up and he asked her what she was doing today at the polls. RO told him she was with the TEA Party and he acted very unhappy with us. RO told him that we had discussed the candidates and then voted and the majority won. And that was the way we had handled it.
BOB said we have an invitation for Walter Jones to come and speak with us. It was scheduled for May 29 but he called ERIC up and had to cancel because of a conflict in scheduling, so we are trying to reschedule for the 2nd or 4th week in June if it fits with his schedule. He had said he was surprised that we even wanted to talk with us since we didn’t back him during the election. ERIC explained that it was all over term limits, plus also this was the first primary we had been involved in. We will be supporting him in the general election. Several that had worked the polls on election day were asked why we had supported Palombo in lieu of Jones.
FRED said he never got even one mailing from Ramsey. There was a complete uproar from those in attendance about how many they had been bombarded with.
SUSAN RYNAS said there was a lady at her polling precinct that had come down from Raleigh to work for Sanderson because she thought he was just a wonderful person and deserved to win. LUKE KUKULINSKI said Norm Sanderson’s wife, Linda, and Norm Sanderson’s secretary was at his polling place and they were all handing out TEA party stuff. Even Mary Ann Franks (Terry Frank’s wife) was also handing out TEA Party stuff. TOM HARMON said he had Randy Ramsey’s wife next to him and he had to listen to her asking people to vote for her Randy.
BOB asked if we had heard that Ron Paul was no longer campaigning. He was still running but due to finances was not actively campaigning in the remaining primaries. ERIC WILSON said he no longer had the funding to run ads in the primary states, so they are putting all their efforts in the caucus states on the delegate strategy. Paul is not out of the race. BOB asked what Paul was hoping to accomplish. ERIC said they were hoping for a broker convention. BOB said to what end, to win the nomination? Several said no, no, can’t let that happen. It will totally split the Republican party if they disenfranchised all those votes and would enable Obama to win reelection by a landslide. BOB said he didn’t think Ron Paul would even consider that or at least he hoped he wouldn’t. A lot of discussion followed.
BOB called on EULA PARKIN for her reports. She said over the years she has received a lot of literature from various organizations. She said she had gotten a booklet free and after a period she finally got around to reading it. She ordered 25 copies and if anyone is interested in getting a copy please put your donation in the jar….oops, BOB forgot the donation jar….will have to wait until next week. You will be surprised at what is covered in that little booklet. The title is “99 ways the government uses your taxes to attack your values”. She read the titles of the chapters and it really sounded interesting. Chapter 1 – Pushing the radical homosexual Agenda…Chapter 2 – The War against Christianity and Religion…Chapter 3 – The assault of radical Islam and Sharia Law on America…Chapter 4 – War on Morals and Traditional Values…Chapter 5 – Pushing Abortion and the cultural of debt at every opportunity. As you read each chapter, it will actually make your blood curdle. She then announced the Relay for Life event to be held this Friday night at the West Carteret High School. She announced she was a 14 year cancer survivor and wanted to know if there were any other cancer survivors among us tonight. PEGGY said she was a 17 year survivor. EULA also discussed Hodgkin’s Disease and what was currently being discovered about this disease (which her husband had died from) and the connection to Loran Stations. BOB said several of his military friends had died early from various illnesses who had been associated with high voltage jobs also.
ERIC BROYLES wanted to know if anyone had seen the movie on TV this past weekend on Honor Killing. Many had watched it. BOB asked Mr. McFadyen if his court was going to recognize Sharia Law. He said ‘No Sir’ not unless they make him do it. Discussion about states that had passed laws opposing Sharia Law but the 9th Circuit Court had declared it unconstitutional. BOB said that was one thing he liked about Gingrich’s platform, he was going to dissolve the 9th Circuit Court.
BOB said one of the things he wanted to ask Walter Jones when he did come to talk with us is ‘What can Congress do to limit the President ruling by decree with all these executive orders.
LUKE said he thought they already had that in the mill….going to war without constitutional approval. BOB said that was a violation of the constitution if he doesn’t ask for a declaration of war – the war powers act was passed because of the Vietnam thing. Supposed to prevent us from getting into another long winded protracted undeclared war….but we are in one now. So that is another thing he wants to ask him about. How come the war powers act is not functioning as intended.
STEVE BEST has another movie coming up at his theater ’the Cave’, on Saturday, May 26 at 4:00 pm and the name of the movie is ’The other side of Heaven’. Refreshments will be provided and if you would like you may bring a covered dish also.
HOWARD said one of the things that surprised him about the election was how bad Terry Franks beat Larry Land. That really shocked him. BOB said he really thinks that showed the power of our ballot. SCOTT CARPENTER had called him (HOWARD) and said Terry had asked SCOTT to call as many as he could get up with and thank them for their support. BOB said if you look at all the other races, Secretary of Agriculture, Auditor, Labor Commissioner, Insurance Commissioner, Secretary of State, Supt. Public Instruction, Treasurer, etc. and the results, the ones that were on our ballot got a huge proportionate of the votes in Carteret County. A lot of people came out after voting and said they were glad we had those suggested lists. They didn’t know a lot of people on those ballots. PEGGY said she was told by several that they knew with certain races how they were going to vote; but there were a lot that they knew nothing about. That was why they were glad the TEA Party was there with their lists. They knew we had checked all the candidates out and had chosen the ones we thought were the best and they valued our knowledge and efforts. Made her feel good about being a TEA Party member.
SUSAN said she had heard it said the TEA Party was dead. No one even heard about it anymore. BOB said that was because we no longer held rallies. He was in agreement with the TEA Party Patriot group that said protest rallies were a thing of the past, now was the time to do the grunt work, get on the ground, get involved in campaigns and candidates, vet these guys, educate the voters and that type of stuff. We are more seeping into the system and slowly changing it. ERIC said he thinks we are now looked upon as a watch dog group.
ERIC BROYLES wanted to know if anyone was keeping up with the budget for the county. Do they intend to raise taxes? HOWARD said from what he had been told…no, taxes would not be raised by the County Commissioners. An article in the paper put out by the County Manager said they were going to hold the line. Discussion/consideration of the budget started today. Bill Smith told him that they had invited Elaine Crittenton and Terry Franks to sit in on the discussions, even though they don’t have any authority or a vote since they had not been installed yet, but they thought it would be good experience for them. The budget is required to be submitted prior to their installation.
Discussion on Voter ID….Gas Taxes Reduction….NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act) The bill that gives the military permission to arrest and detain citizens on US soil indefinitely without charges or anything….BOB asked ERIC WILSON to post the information he has on our Face Book page, so we can find out more about the subjects he touched on tonight.
CLAYTON asked if anyone had heard about the drones flying over head, keeping an eye on us.
Discussion followed.
ERIC WILSON asked if anyone knew why Bill Ayres was still walking around free instead of in prison. Several discussed that he had been tried but due to some technicality he had gone free. He also discussed the fact that Obama should not be president due to the fact his father was a British subject (Kenya) and our constitution states to be eligible to run for president your father must be a citizen of the US. This also brought up much discussion.
Meeting adjourned at 7:03 pm.
Minutes submitted by PEGGY GARNER, Secretary.