CRYSTAL COAST TEA PARTY PATRIOTS MINUTES
OCTOBER 25,2011
Meeting was held at the Golden Corral Restaurant, Morehead City, NC
Meeting called to order by President BOB CAVANAUGH at 6:00 pm
Pledge of Allegiance was led by PEGGY GARNER
Invocation by HARRY THOMPSON
Attendance – 26
BOB introduced the new attendees:
JOAN COOGAN and BUCK DAVIDS who according to Buck live across the road in the tower. He said he got here because the cops, in the town he lived in before, threw him out, thereby reducing the crime rate in that town by 72% when he moved out. He is currently establishing a repartee with the Morehead City police. He is allowed to attend one meeting per month but is required to have at least two guards with him. Amid all the laughter, BOB asked if Ms. Coogan was one of his assigned guards; said he was glad that Buck had chosen our TEA Party meeting as one of his monthly meetings and hoped he would come back.
BRIAN KRAMER, representative of the ‘Hope for Warriors’ Kayak Race in Pine Knoll Shores. He thanked DENNIS TOMASO for inviting him to our meeting. He said he really respected what the TEA Party stands for. About four years ago, the decision was made that they needed to do something to help wounded Marines at Camp LeJeune. They decided to hold an annual kayak race to raise funds . All the funds go to the ‘Hope for Warriors’ foundation. They do similar things as the ‘Wounded Warriors’ group. (We had been told their logo was the same as the Wounded Warriors but this is not true; they have a totally different design/trademark.) The way the Hope for Warriors was formed in 2003, a group of guys were coming back wounded from Iran and Iraq, and their units were no longer here, but were still deployed overseas. General Amos, who was in charge of Camp Lejeune at the time (and is now the Commandant of the Marine Corps), put them all in one barracks so they could be looked after in a group. That morphed into the Wounded Warrior battalion which is now the Wounded Warrior Regimental Flag Unit of the Marine Corps. The Hope for the Warriors Foundation spun out of that and is now one of the best organizations in the country (he believes) in taking care of the guys and gals coming back banged up. It is headquartered out of Camp Lejeune. There are two or three buildings where they have their headquarters, with about two young ladies and several volunteers who do most of the work. They do have satellite offices in cities all over the country. For those of you who are real careful in tracking what kind of charities you work with, as all should do, their admin rate is like 5%; which is really good for an organization and can be verified, by the way, on web site charitynavigator.org. Go there and check these guys out. They have a four star rating, so they get audited and checked. They do some great things. They have different programs, like transitioning the wounded with prosthetic legs, (he and DENNIS have met some of them) out into jobs and such. A lady, Peggy, was supposed to have attended tonight’s meeting, but was unable since she is over at a TVI injury household, helping out the couple (wounded marine and wife) get through some financial issues right now – financial integration program, one of the many programs to help out the wounded warriors. They also have ‘Warrior Wish’, which is
similar to ‘Make a Wish’; helping guys/gals (help both sexes) who come back injured (all branches, not just Marines). This last year’s kayak race he kayaked with a blind marine, who had lost his sight while fighting overseas, and he had his dog with him. They kayaked three point two miles. It was pretty motivating. He said when you weigh all different organizations, the good thing about this organization is you can touch this organization. He can take us to Camp Lejeune and introduce us to some of the people overseeing the area program, as well as meet some of the wounded marines; so we can actually see where our money is going. BOB asked ’What do you actually do for the wounded warriors that say the Navy Relief Society wouldn’t do, such as for planned assistance and beyond what the military medical aid provides?’ Brian said they were familiar with the relief societies aid. That is small change (like giving them $400.00 to fly home for Christmas). ’Hope for Warriors’ helps pay for education for families of fallen servicemen. BOB asked ’Wasn’t that available for them now?’ Brian said he was not sure how much is offered, but this organization has been able to help such that it dwarfs any other help available from the relief societies. Part of the reason for this, as well, is negotiating the relief society way (guys wait years for the VA to get them what they need) and Hope for Warriors’s has a little faster response. BOB said “Do you get them better medical treatment?” Brian said, “No, they don’t do any medical programs with doctors and services such as that. But for example, last year they put in a swimming pool for a marine’s use in rehabilitation. He doesn’t think the VA would have ever done that. The pool was put in at the warrior’s home in Richlands. DENNIS said Brian had neglected to say the kayak race four years ago had raised $700.00 and this year they raised $39,000.00. You can tell by that the support in the community for this program.
ROMA WADE said he would like to remind us all that there are five branches of service: Army, Navy, Marine, Air Force and Coast Guard. The Coast Guard is the oldest sea going outfit and has served in every war and they have lost a lot of people also.
FRED DECKER wanted to know didn’t they get their medical help from the Camp Lejeune Hospital. Brian said ‘When they come back and they are still on active duty they do get treatment at Camp Lejeune but ‘Hope for the Warriors’ helps after they get out/ beyond discharge. FRED said ‘But they still have assistance through the VA.’ Brian said ‘yes they do’. This is not meant to take the place of their VA benefits. FRED said he was a member of the Retired Enlisted Association in Cherry Point and they give money to the Wounded Warrior League Program. Brian said he had just gotten a good example ‘a Marine is injured, and his unit comes back. You have seen all the signs, and they have a big event welcoming them home. When a Marine is injured and is returned home, they will pay to have the injured Marine’s family fly up for the memorial services usually held for the fallen guys and the welcome home to their injured family member. That is something you would not find funded by the VA or military. If you go on the web site you will find they have seven programs now, that definitely fills the gap. BOB said it was his understanding that the Wounded Warrior barracks in Camp Lejeune are also a holding barracks for a lot folks who are just being processed out and discharged (for like drug abuse or other mental non-combat reasons). Do you help everybody or do you specifically target those wounded in combat? Brian said he was not certain that that was the case of the barracks holding non-combat persons. He would check into that. What they did was build right next to the naval hospital a wounded warriors’ barracks and the Fisher House (which is like a Ronald McDonald House for visiting family members). He has not heard of them putting admin discharge people there. Now a lot of the wounded guys are in various admin discharge procedures/medical separations. That is part of the reason why they are assigned there, since they can not be included in their normal units; however, disciplinary issues; he doubts, but will find out. BOB said another example would be a marine wounded in a car accident (not in combat); would those be placed in with the wounded in combat? Brian said he would check all these questions out and get back with us as soon as he found out. He said he would be real surprised to find out they were putting disciplinary/accidental injuries in the Wounded Warrior barracks that they had spent several million dollars to build for them. FRED wanted to know didn’t they have a Wounded Warriors’ barracks on the West Coast also. Brian said yes they do. What they did was General Amos set that up here at Camp Lejeune and Secretary Rumsfelt thought this was a good thing and directed the Army to do it in Bragg and several other locations. We now have a battalion on the east coast and Camp Pendleton on the west coast. Both are Marine Corps Units, Wounded Warrior East, here at Camp Lejeune, and Wounded Warrior West there and a regiment in Quantico. BOB thanked Brian for his presentation and invited him to come back to see us. He told him that once our group voted on which charity we wanted to support, we would let him know. It might not just be one but may split our donations among several.
On November 5th we have the Veteran’s Day Parade coming up in Morehead City. BOB had received an email from NANCY BOCK. NANCY is missing tonight. Her daughter is playing soccer (BOB thinks this may be the last game of the season unless they win and then there may be playoffs, and I guess to get NANCY back with us maybe we should hope they lose. (Just kidding Nancy). BOB said he assumes we still have about $1,200.00 in the Treasury. He had asked her when and where they were going to get together and decorate the float. She had emailed back “We should decorate the float near the starting point of the parade the Saturday morning of the parade. It probably won’t take an hour, so say meet at 9:00am just to be safe (parade starts at 11:00).” NANCY did not know where the parade starts or exits so had not scoped the place out yet. “She will get the flags from LYN BAKER on Tuesday prior and have them attached to the poles. Then we will only have to attach the fringe, banners and PEGGY’s posters, and put the chairs on the float.” LYN had told us she could get the military flags from her church (I think she said). Apparently she came through and had let NANCY know. BOB asked FRED if he knew where we were supposed to be in line and where we needed to have the float. FRED said he would call and find out the exact location we need to meet, but he thought it would be somewhere near Saint Egberts Church on Evans Street (?). He would call, get the information in the morning and call PEGGY so she could include it in tonight’s minutes. (Called, but the Parade Organizers have not made up a lineup yet. Are waiting until the deadline for requesting permission to have a float in the parade. He will let us know as soon as he can. KEN LANG will probably send out an email letting us all know.)
BOB said those interested in helping and/or being in the parade (after we hear from KEN) will meet and 9:00 or 9:30 to decorate. He said he would need to get the ball from HOWARD and HOWARD said we would be there with the chairs and he always had the ball in the back of his truck, so that was covered. BOB called on SCOTT CARPENTER to continue our discussion and plans for the parade. SCOTT had his flip charts set up for keeping a record of what/who/where/lessons learned from previous parades, etc. He had forgotten to bring a copy of his typed notes from our July 4th Parade so he didn’t have a list of our mistakes and should-have-done’s with him tonight. Asked how many planned to be there on Saturday morning to get set up. Verified that KEN would be sending out an email with everything we will need to know. BOB said he thought the parade would be about 10 blocks long. This information is for those who do not think they will be able to walk that far and will need to ride on the float. (Need to have a count on number of chairs to bring). SCOTT wanted to know if the flag posts will already be pre-positioned on the float. Last time we clamped them on. Since there are still so many unknown variables, we’ll just cover what we can tonight.
HOWARD – bring ball (trailer hitch) for pulling trailer, any tools he thinks we may need (ie electric screwdrivers), and the chairs.
NANCY – trailer, fringe, flags from LYN,
Will need at least 6 walkers to pass out … a lot of joking about passing out … pocket Constitutions and flyers. Did not have enough handing out materials at the 4th
Parade. BOB wanted to know what kind of flyers we are going to pass out. SCOTT thinks we should pass out a list of the three core values of the TEA Party. Feels like everyone should know what our mission is and what we stand for. Wanted to know who had a copy of the flyer so we could make copies. No one was aware of any flyer already prepared. Some felt that this parade was for the veterans and that we should not be pushing the TEA Party. Our red shirts would do that for us. (Everyone in the parade, both walking and riding should be wearing our TEA Party Tee Shirts.) Questioned if we had enough pocket Constitutions to pass out. Think we have somewhere around 1000. Hope that will be enough. BOB thought three people on each side of the float passing out the Constitutions was an overkill; we would run out before the end of the parade. SCOTT said no, only one on each side would be passing out Constitutions, another would be passing out the flyers and the third would be a gofer to restock those passing the information out. DIANE LANG brought up that we had a table set up at the July 4th parade where we sold hats, tee shirts, etc. (BOB said maybe we could recycle our old McCain bumper stickers by cutting the Mc off.) He said ROMA and EDITH WADE had set that up with a friend in Beaufort to utilize space in front of their store. Don’t know if we can have that privilege in Morehead. Much discussion on table. Question was raised if we might have to have a permit for the table. BOB said he thinks that might be one of those times when you say “Sorry, didn’t realize that – and ask for forgiveness afterwards”. Think the decision was made to try to set up down by the food booths and it will be manned and operated by TOM HARMON and JERE GEURIN. (We’re in trouble now with Tom and Jere in charge.) TOM said he had a table they could use.
Someone asked if we still had any of those real small flags we passed out last time. TOM H. said he thought he still had a few in the back of his truck. He would check. BOB said he would email NANCY to see where we stand on getting the small flags.
SCOTT wanted to know if we had anyone set up to procure the candy we wanted to toss to the kids. BOB said since PEGGY had done such a good job for the July 4th candy toss, he understood that PEGGY and HOWARD were working feverishly to procure the candy for this parade. (Thanks BOB – just love being volunteered, but we will give it our best). HOWARD asked how much they wanted us to spend. BOB said whatever it takes. He is assuming we are going to hit the stores right after Halloween for the sales. He wanted to know how much we had gotten for the July 4th parade and what it cost. (LOU said we had run out and caught the devil from kids who lost out. Problem was at the start of the parade the candy was thrown out by the double handsful, so we need to remember that when we start off for this parade.) PEGGY said she had gotten two big boxes of candy (Ruth had helped by donating some money); but she had no idea exactly how many pounds there were. HOWARD said last time we donated the candy, but felt we needed help for this parade, it does get rather expensive. SCOTT said well, the candy is covered – Thanks HOWARD and PEGGY for volunteering!!!
BOB asked PEGGY what her posters/signs depicted. She said she hoped to have at least four ready – one was the liberty bell that says Let Freedom Ring; another was raising the flag over Iwo Jima with Freedom is Not Free; another was saluting the flag with the Pledge written out and the last was six military personnel in dress uniform carrying a coffin through a cemetery with the statement ‘Some Gave All‘.
BOB said well we seem to have just about everything covered. SCOTT wanted to know if we were encouraging those who have motorcycles to ride them in the parade. No one knew of anyone off hand that was interested. Last time ROY MUSSER had shown up to ride with us but we haven’t seen ROY is several weeks.
SCOTT said we need to ensure enough members stick around after the parade for break down of the float and returning items used.
BOB said for the 4th parade NANCY, her husband and CATIE MCCABE wore colonial dress and carried the banner. He did not think the costumes would apply for this parade but we will still need at least two people in TEA Party tee shirts to carry the banner. BOB said he thought there would be no problem in breaking down, since he was pretty sure we would wind up at least near where we started. Then it would just a matter of taking the fringe off, flags down, and the chairs and posters back in HOWARD’s truck. Please be sure we have your email address so we will be able to contact you. BOB jokingly told Buck David, if he was worried about the cops finding him, then he could always give someone else’s email address. Buck said that was a great idea.
SCOTT asked if there were any further comments, ideas or suggestions. Discussion on parade concluded. BOB asked SCOTT to access our performance again at this parade and we will discuss it at the meeting after the parade.
ERIC was asked how his wife was doing and he said she was still having problems with her medications, which is keeping him pretty much tied to the house right now. That does not mean that he has quit working for the TEA Party, as we can tell by the number of handouts he had passed around tonight. He wanted to discuss two subjects tonight. The first is about the candidate he thinks we should support in the Morehead City Mayoral Race. He didn’t know if we had chance to see or read about the debate that occurred a couple of week’s ago. It convinced him that David Horton’s ideas reflect the ideas of the TEA Party…fiscal responsibility, limited government….MARION MERRILL spoke in opposition that Jerry Jones had been mayor for 16 years and had more experience than Horton would ever have. ERIC said he realized that we had various opinions and he appreciated the fact that we were able to voice them; but economical times are bad and getting worse. In his opinion, a lot of money has been wasted in recent years, the police station, the JIB property, the ball field, etc. and the tax payers have not been allowed to have a say so in any of it. He thinks the current mayor and city manager have spent money on things we could have done without and used at least a part of that money to give the town employees a raise. MARION said she did not believe that either. ERIC told her then she needed to read the minutes. David Horton has asked ERIC if some of the TEA party would be willing to help with phone calls, maybe a little assistance at the polls, etc. ERIC had brought a sign up sheet, for anyone wishing to help Horton, to please sign before they left tonight. He had distributed a letter from Horton on the Town Council Meeting Minutes of Tuesday, June 14, 2011 in with the pack of data he had passed out earlier for us to look at, which explains why he did not support the budget this past year, nor in 2010. Bottom line is ERIC thinks Horton is the best candidate that supports the TEA Party.
On another subject, he had distributed some other information that he had obtained from the White House. He thought it was kinda interesting and wanted to share it with us. One of the charts he had given us was about the individual income taxes. Who pays what, broken down by top 1%, 5%, 10%, etc and bottom 1%, 5%,10% etc. To give you an idea, the top 10% pays almost 70% of all federal income taxes. The top 25% pays 87%. The bottom 50% only paid 2.7%. So you can see the burden is being carried by the top 25% of this country. The other thing he thought interesting is the report that shows receipts from individual, corporate, and excise taxes and other. In 2010 $898,549 billion dollars came from tax payers like you and I. The estimate for 2016 is $1,785,970 trillion dollars; literally doubled. We have all heard about these tax hikes President Obama has been talking about; well these are his estimates; so we clearly know what his agenda is. He has no intention on cutting spending. If anyone is interested in more information, please contact ERIC and he will try to get it for you. PAT NALITZ wanted to know if ERIC had any figures on the percentage of those in poverty of that bottom 50%. Surely we are not 50% in poverty. ERIC said he would think if you were not paying any taxes, then you couldn’t afford to pay taxes. According to the way he reads the chart it would appear that the bottom 50% earn 33 thousand dollars or less (adjusted gross income). BOB said we have to remember that a number of people end up in the lower tax bracket due to number of kids/dependents they have, high mortgage, and things like that. Just because they are not paying taxes does not mean that they are unemployed or as TOM said they could be like Timothy Geitner, making gobs of money and just not paying anything. HOWARD said a lot are getting income off the record.
KEN LANG spoke on Moore TEA’s billboard project. He said about a month or so ago he mentioned that a group from Moore County’s TEA Party were looking into putting up billboards prior to the Democratic Convention in 2012 (between July and election). They did four billboards in 2010 around the Moore County area. This time they have been going all around the state trying to find “good” locations for renting to put up billboards. He and DIANE met with some of them this past weekend in Swansboro. They were looking at billboards in this area along Hwy 24 and 17. They currently have logged in 2400 miles in researching locations. They have collected somewhere around $1,200.00 but have just got the ball rolling. A lot of these billboards cost around $400.00 per month, sometimes more and sometimes less; depending on the location. So they are now looking for donations. We have had several members from this group (Morehead) and the Western group who have sent in suggestions for slogans to be used. The slogan that the Moore group used two years ago has been taken by the AFL-CIO and it will now be used on their billboards, so we need to find another really catchy slogan to use. If you go on our website, there is a link to the Moore TEA website, ncteabillboards or something like that, where you can get further information, suggestions received so far, and inform as to some of the locations they are looking at and have pretty much decided on as soon as they get enough money to do it with. KEN said he really would like to see this group commit to providing some funds to this project. Individuals are encouraged to participate also. DEBBIE RUCKER told KEN that she had already sent them some money. Several thought it was a good idea and thought we should consider making a donation. KEN thinks they may end up with possibly 20 or so locations and then narrow them down to whatever they have money for. They would like to put up all 20 but are hoping to put at least 8 to 10 up. They do want to put some billboards down in this part of NC, because they know there is a lot of support here. DIANE said she felt we should donate to the cause. We can pass out all kinds and amounts of flyers, but a billboard will cover a whole lot more ground and attention. BOB told KEN that the next time he talked to them, that maybe they should decide on how many they want to put up and then state this is how much money we need to raise. In other words, set a target. KEN said he thought that was their ultimate goal, but they had just started this project recently (about 4 or 5 weeks ago) and they are putting a lot of personal time now in just getting prepared. They are also looking at different companies trying to get the best prices they can. ’Course prices are based on how much traffic goes by the signs, how visible they are, and those kind of things. At this point they are shooting for 10 signs at $400 (at the least) per month for that period of time. That big billboard they were looking at down around Swansboro, has great visibility, and it is around $400. He feels sure that there are some in the western part of the state that will run a whole lot higher. HOWARD said there is a potential that if you can tie in with some business, that agrees with the program, and has a long term contract, (sort of like sublease) of renting billboards; we may be able to get them to let us use their billboards at a reduced rate. BOB said we would certainly like to be able to contribute to that project. We currently have roughly around $1,200.00 in the kitty, but he doesn’t know what expenses we have coming up, and if we want to hold a rally in the spring, prior to the primaries, that is going to cost us some money. We might do a pass the hat type thing and maybe raise at least $400.00 to pay for one month for one sign. TOM recommended we come up with a fund raiser.
STEVEN BEST reported on “The Cave” theater. It is almost finished (needs to set up the projector and speakers) and Friday night will be the grand opening. The movie they will be showing is Matthew 10.28 and he hopes everyone here tonight will show up for the premier. He has gotten popcorn and hotdog machines. Social from 6:00 (with free hotdogs) until 7:00 when the movie will start. Would like to know how many plan to attend so they will know how much food to get. Please join us Friday night.
JERE GEURIN informed us that all the packages (105) they had packed to send to the troops overseas; sponsors to mail them were found, and all got mailed this past weekend.
This “We care” program (headed up by Sam Sanford) will again be packing boxes tomorrow morning (Wednesday) hopefully another 100. Anyone interested in helping please come to Hwy 70, across from the Trucker’s Toy Store and behind Furniture Distributors. Plan to start about 9:00 and we should be through by 11:00. He and Sam will again be at the Post Office in Morehead City next week looking for sponsors to pay the postage ($12.95) for mailing the boxes. ERIC said since we are looking for charities to sponsor, this might be one that we could help out by paying the postage on 5 or 10 boxes at each mailing. BOB said if it would fall into our budget, it would be nice. BOB said he would like to have Sam come in and pitch the ’We Care’ program to the group, because “We Care” is certainly in the running for getting proceeds from our tee shirt sales.
BOB said there is going to be a training session on Agenda 21 Saturday, 3:00pm November 12 at St. David’s School in their newly renovated Performing Arts Center which is located ¼ mile from North Hills at 3400 White Oak Road in Raleigh. Admission is free and ample parking is available. Guest speaker is Mr. Thomas DeWeese, President, American Policy Center of Warrenton, Virginia and will be speaking on the UN’s Agenda 21/Sustainable Development Program. Mr. DeWeese is a nationally known expert on Agenda 21 and will present an in-depth analysis of how each and every one of us is being affected at the local, state and national levels by this insidious threat to our liberties. Sustainable Development calls for changing the very infrastructure of the nation, away from private ownership and private control of property to the central planning of our entire economy. This is being done through Cap and Trade, population control, open borders, social justice, farming reform, environmental protection, smart growth, open spaces and economic justice to just name a few of the ways this threat is being presented to the unsuspecting American people. Sponsors of this event are Feet to the Fire (FTTF), Conservative Women’s Forum, Southern Wake Republican Club, Chapel Hill Republican Women and Triangle Conservatives United, have joined together to establish an education fund that will be used for this and future educational events. There is a growing need in our community to keep ourselves informed of vitally important issues that we are currently facing. This fund will be used to bring experts on various controversial subjects into our area to speak on a variety of important issues. BOB asked if anyone would be interested in going to this event besides Steve. BOB said he was seriously thinking about going. Agenda 21 took up a large part of last night’s TEA Party Patriots conference call. They had a big meeting in Chattanooga (he thinks it was). They had folks from three states. There is a Karen Bracken who stays on top of Agenda 21 and she has a weekly program that you can dial in and get involved. You can contact her at karenbracken5@gmail.com or you can go to www.agenda21today.com for more information. Agenda 21 is something we need to be smart about and keep ourselves informed. They are pushing this stuff at us a lot faster than we are aware of all around the country and all around the world. There is some legislation in Wisconsin that the folks up there were fighting to have eliminated (essentially trying to defeat some initiatives being pushed there) TOM asked if the TEA Party Patriots were asking any questions to the candidates. BOB said no, but they were talking about another TEA Party debate in South Carolina. That is not set up yet. Instead of having it like the normal debate, (question is asked and every candidate gets 60 seconds to answer). What they want to do is isolate the candidates in sound proof booths so they can not hear the other candidates response. It will be like a 3 hour event. That way you will be able to hear what each candidate thinks without his/her knowing the other responses. It would also stop this quibbling back and forth. TOM said he thinks we should find out how/what these people think about Agenda 21 before we go putting them in the White House. TOM said he understands that Newt Gingrich and Herman Cain are going to have a debate that will be held by the TEA Party on November 5. LOU and TOM said Newt was on a couple of programs today and only had nice things to say about Cain. When it was mentioned about the two debating, it caught on like crazy. You know how Newt is talking about the three hour linkage debate with President Obama, Well, Newt and Cain are going to knock it around. BOB said he couldn’t see a debate between Gingrich and Cain, they agree on just about everything. TOM said they were going to discuss Tom Ryan’s medicare plan.
FRED reported that Friday night at Newport Elementary School they had their fall festival. Security was provided by the TEA Party Patriots…FRED, SCOTT, and LOU. BOB wanted to know if they had on their TEA Party shirts. Fred said no, he had on a red one but not our official shirt.
Meeting adjourned at 7:45.
Minutes submitted by Secretary PEGGY GARNER