CRYSTAL COAST TEA PARTY PATRIOTS MINUTES
FOR
October 4, 2011

Meeting held at Golden Corral, Morehead City, NC
Meeting called to order at 6:00 pm by President BOB CAVANAUGH
Pledge of Allegiance led by LOU KUKULINSKI
Invocation by NANCY BOCK
Attendance – 21

There were no new attendees at tonight’s meeting.

BOB said first subject for the evening is who we want to sponsor on our Tee Shirts. (and donate a portion of the proceeds from their sale.)  This is something we have discussed in the past but never made a final decision on. We had the Carolina K9 folks up here to explain their program.  [Andrew, who attended some of our meetings with his dog, was thought to be a wounded warrior; but BOB discovered that he was wounded while doing karate and was placed in the wounded warrior division until he could be processed out.  How he ended up with a special dog, BOB did not know.]  The dog program is a very worthwhile cause.  The one BOB is currently leaning for is  “Hope for Warriors” down in Jacksonville.  He asked DENNIS TOMASO if he knew any more about them.  DENNIS said he had it set up with them to come speak to us on the 18th.  The woman that runs it is very low key.  Every dollar received goes into “Hope for Warriors”.  BOB said the other good thing is they have the same logo as Wounded Warriors so we will not have to change our shirts emblem very much.  The Town Manager of Pine Knoll Shores runs a kayak race every year and this year they raised about $36,000.00 or $39,000.00.  The people who run the organization make peanuts, so we can be assured our money is going for a good cause.  The lady, who will be coming to speak to us, name is Peggy (but he cannot remember her last name).  He feels we will be impressed with her.  BOB said, ‘Let’s hold off making a decision until we hear from her”.  The other organization was Sam Sanford’s group “We Care”.  They make up boxes of goodies and mail them to our troops overseas.  We need to get Sam in here and give us a better understanding of what they do.  LOU KUKULINSKI said he thought they would be making up the boxes again tomorrow morning, down behind the old strip mall, across from Trucker’s Toy Store.

Up Coming Things….Today is Tuesday the 4th, and on Thursday, the 6th, we have Frank Palombo speaking at the Republican Men’s Club meeting at the Rib Steak House in Cape Carteret.  FRED asked “Are you sure it is the 6th”, he thought they met the second Thursday of the month, and the 6th is the first Thursday.  BOB said he needed to check on that.  LOU and FRED may be right.  He’d better call Frank and find out for sure. RUTH asked BOB to shoot an email out to the group as soon as he found out the correct date.
On the 7th, at the Community Center Joslyn Hall, at 6:00 pm, the League of Women Voters will be holding their candidate’s, for local elections, debate.  If you come to this meeting please wear your TEA Party shirts and hats so we can make a statement with our presence.   Bob said he imagines they will probably have a blank form, to fill out when you get there, to ask a question of particular candidates.  Then they will probably have like a vetting committee to sort them out.  Time is 6 until 9 pm.  He thinks we should get there around 5:30 to make sure you have a parking space and seating.  Question as to who will be on the platform.   BOB said local candidates, mayor, councilmen, etc.  Question as to which local (Morehead, Beaufort, Newport, Cape Carteret, etc. Carteret is a big county)  BOB said probably just Morehead, Beaufort and maybe Newport,  since there will be another forum in Cape Carteret on the 26th.  There really isn’t that many contested races.  He, personally, is interested in the Morehead City races.  HOWARD GARNER said David Horton had a real good ad in last week’s paper.  This is the second ad he has had and they both were very informative.  BOB asked if it was just a political ad announcing his candidacy and HOWARD said no it was a rather lengthy ad explained why he was running.  Both articles covered pretty much what he told us the night he spoke at our meeting.  CLAYTON GILLIKIN wanted to know if it would be appropriate for us to hand every candidate a copy of our pocket Constitution before the forum starts.  BOB said that may not be a bad idea.  CLAYTON said he wasn’t sure but he thought the League of Women Voters did not use the Pledge of Allegiance or Invocation prior to their meetings.  This is very important to the TEA Party.  BOB said he would check prior to the event and find out their procedure, and if not, would ask if they would please say the pledge and give an invocation prior to that night‘s meeting.
BOB said Walter Jones would be holding a get together at Parker’s Barbecue in Greenville at 5:00 pm on October 7.  Ron Paul, candidate for President, will be there.  Jones will again, this year, declare his support of Paul.  LOU said it looked to him that Paul was starting a lot of trash on the elimination of Awalocki (?).  Paul had said it was against the Constitution to assassinate an American citizen.  Most in attendance feel that it is wrong to say that we had assassinated an American citizen.  When Awalocki began his association with the terrorists and became one of their leaders, as far as we were concerned, he had given up his right as a citizen of the US.  BOB said he did not know for sure if there was an admission fee to the barbecue but if so, would probably be only about $5.00.  FRED said they had a big one recently and it was for a whole lot more, something like $2,500.00.  HOWARD said yes, but that one was held at the Country Club.  It started at $150.00 up.
BOB said the Republican Men’s Club would be hosting a reverse drawing at 4:00pm Saturday, at Cannonsgate on Hwy 24.  300 raffle tickets were being offered and he did not know if there were any left unsold.  SCOTT said he had one he would like to sell.  LOU said he thought there were a few left.  They are $150.00 a piece, and if you win, it is $5,000.00.  HOWARD said there would be heavy hors d’oeuvres and drinks served.  BOB asked if anyone knew who was going to be the keynote speaker at the event.  FRED said there would be a lot of them….McCrory, Pat McElraft, Jean Preston, and they were trying to get Sen. Burr, but he wasn’t sure if they had heard back from him.  Judge Newby, was a maybe and FRED said he thought Frank Palombo was coming.  BOB said he understood Jones would be there and a lot of the state’s Republican party bigwigs up in Raleigh would be there….Speaker, Senate Leader, Harry Brown, Tillis, etc.  Anyway, if you want to be there it is $150.00 for two people.  HOWARD wanted to know if the main gate at Cannonsgate will be open.  BOB said it would probably be opened for this occasion.  FRED said they were having the event catered this year by the Ice House.

BOB said FRED had handed him something that he thought was pretty interesting called the State Department Watch.  He couldn’t see an email or website on the paper but apparently something is going on about the islands off the coast of Alaska, the Aleutians, close to Siberia.  Apparently the Obama administration is trying to give or sell seven of these islands to Russia and along with that would be the 200 mile radius around them for commercial exploration (oil fields, fishing etc).  There is a request form to sign and return to the Speaker of the House John Boehner in opposition.  Boehner may be our last hope to save these islands from being lost forever to the Russians.  As you are aware, it is the unelected bureaucrats of the Obama administration; with no public hearings, no public scrutiny and without anyone noticing; are working on a land giveaway.  They are negotiating right now with representatives of the leaders of Russia….the same kind of thugs that ran the Communist Soviet Union…to give away thousands of square miles of Alaska.  [There were several “Unbelievable” comments from the audience.]  Thousands of square miles that contain billions of barrels of oil, tons of fish and other seafood, and millions of tons of valuable ore.  We are already sending millions of dollars to Russia right now to buy oil and unless we stop this giveaway immediately we will be sending them millions more to buy back our own oil.  The Russians are making out like bandits.
BOB listed the islands being proposed (Rangel Island, Bennett Island, Genet Island, Henrietta Island, Cooper Island, Sea Lion Rock and Sea Otter Rock, along with thousands of square miles of ocean sea bed that surrounds them…not sure of the spellings).  BOB asked FRED how he got on their mailing list.  FRED said it came in the mail today, and he didn’t know why he had gotten it.  BOB said he had never heard of this organization and he didn’t know if this was true or not.  It might be just a ploy.  He did see an address to write to on the paper to send donations.  BOB asked for someone to check this out and determine how true it is.  NANCY said she was checking right then on her hand held computer and had not been able to find anything recent about what BOB was reading about.  BOB said he would like for us to find out more about it.  .

BOB said we had all probably seen Herman Cain really winning a lot of these straw polls, by extremely wide margins.  HOWARD asked if anyone saw today (he thought) where Cain was debating Bill Clinton about the Hillarycare program, back when Clinton was president, in ‘94 he thought.  BOB said Hannity had a clip on it on his program last night.  HOWARD felt Cain did real well even back then.  He stood his ground with facts.  He holds his own.  BOB asked if anyone had read Cain’s biography.  Several said yes and it was very impressive.  BOB said when he read his credentials, he was blown away.  All he had heard anyone comment on Cain was the chicken/pizza man.  He read the email that had been sent out recently on Cain’s background – from his mother being a maid and his father working 3 jobs (chauffeur, barber and janitor) to make ends meet – to Cain’s turning around several businesses who were on the verge of failure and also his becoming owner of Godfather‘s Pizza, which he had made profitable in 14 months.  Every company he was asked to help, he had turned around to their making a profit.  (I will not give the writeup as read by BOB but would recommend everyone not knowing of Cain’s experience to please get a copy of it.  You will be carried away with this man’s background.  While he may not have political experience, {other than his involvement with the Federal Reserve in which he achieved second in command chairmanship, where he was able to observe how the monetary system affected the country} he truly has the experience to get this country back on it’s feet, job wise.)  He has written several books and hosted a radio show in Atlanta.  When you read this impressive bio, you may come to the conclusion he has probably the most varied experience of anyone running today or in the past several years.  HOWARD said Cain had said this morning on Fox and Friends “that we were PO folks and that was one step below being poor.”  Comments were made about who would be their choice for President and Vice President.  It was apparent that like everyone else, the group has not totally decided on who would serve us best, but a lot were leaning toward Cain, either as president or vice president.  Gingrich was selected to be the best one to work with the senate, that he could get things done there. LOU said he had one heck of a resume, ‘course not as impressive as Obama’s but’ (laughter) couldn’t hear the rest of his statement.  BOB said he would not be surprised if it did not end up a Cain/Gingrich ticket, who would be on top or bottom he didn’t know.  HOWARD said they both were from Georgia and it was unlikely they would pick two from the same state.

BOB said he had heard where Walter Jones had been in favor of a third party candidate, supporting Ron Paul if Paul does not receive the Republican nomination.  HOWARD said he hoped not, because that would give the election to Obama.  All agreed.  BOB said it is time the Republican Party quit considering Jones a Republican; he is a conservative Democrat, is and always has been.  He could understand why they had stayed with him last time because that was a guaranteed Republican seat and they did not want to take any chances because they wanted a Republican majority.  Well, they have a Republican majority in the house now, and it looks like we may have the opportunity to increase that majority; so now is the time to dump Jones.  He admits he is on board with Frank Palombo.  He feels it is time for some new blood up there.  While Palombo has never run for a political office before, he still feels he is very capable.  HOWARD said for Police Chief to survive as many years (14) as Palombo did in a city the size of New Bern, you have to have to know your politics. He also retired from the police force in Dade County, Florida and then put in 14 years here for a total of 32 years experience.  BOB said he knows the law and he assumes he knows the Constitution.

BOB said we are missing some people tonight that are attending the Western TEA Party meeting at Rucker Johns.  He hopes they have more attendees this week than they did the last meeting…only something like 15 people were there; however it was a nasty, rainy, night so they had an excuse.  Gus Wilgus has been sending out emails inviting everyone to come to the meeting.

BOB brought up the Morehead City parade in November commemorating Veterans Day.  FRED said he had talked to the lady in charge and had reserved a slot for us.  She told him she had sent out the information but had not received anything back from the TEA Party, but would put us down along with the Republican Party, Retirement Association, and another group (could not understand what he said).  He had told her if she put them all together, then he could be involved and ride in all of them.  But seriously, we do have a slot.  We will need more information before the day of the parade.  BOB asked NANCY if her trailer was still available and NANCY said yes.  Discussion on trailer hitch, who he had gotten it from last time and the size.  Wanted to know who planned to ride on the float.  RUTH  PARKER said to not drive so fast this time and BOB said he had to drive to keep up with the float ahead.  LOU said he didn’t remember him driving so fast.  RUTH said ’you weren’t walking either’. LOU said he wouldn’t be this time either.  PEGGY GARNER told BOB she was working on some posters for us to use.  SCOTT CARPENTER wanted to know if BOB wanted him to bring the data to the next meeting that we had compiled on pros and cons on the last parade, the flip charts.  BOB said yes sometime between now and Saturday, November 5th, it might be nice to look them over.  We need to be thinking about getting candy to throw also.  After Halloween there should be some good sales on candy.  BOB asked who wanted to buy all the candy and make it their job to assure we had it available for the parade.  The TEA Party will reimburse whoever volunteers to pick it up.  CLAYTON said he would help out by going out and trick or treating.  Jokes were made about shaking people up with the economy being really bad when Santa has to go out trick or treating for his Christmas candy.

EULA PARKIN informed us that the booklet ‘Islamophobia’, that we had asked her to buy had arrived, and the copies were on the table by BOB.  Please pick one up. In order for us to know her a little better, she gave us a brief description of an event in her life (which she asked me not to include in the minutes).  She then gave us a brief synopsis on the book.

BOB asked if anyone watched the video on line about the County Commissioners meeting where Greg Lewis told Nelson Paul to shut up and go home.  Paul was addressing the County Commissioners on rescinding the Scenic Byway and he started talking about Agenda 21 and Barbara Garrity Blake, who ran against Jean Preston in the last election.  She is somehow associated with the Core Water Fowl Museum.  They are getting funds to promote the Scenic Byway.  Nelson Paul started off talking about Agenda 21 and then went off into this great ‘one world government’.  Commissioner Lewis called a halt to his rambling, they didn’t have time for this, and told Paul to just go home.  BOB thinks where Paul lost support was when he started talking about one world government.  Actually there is nothing in Agenda 21 that addresses having a one world government.  That is another conspiracy theory type thing.  If we talk about Agenda 21 we should avoid any theories, like secrecy plots, undermining the government and stuff like that.  They have this green thing up in Dare County and one in Greensboro, the Scenic Byway here.  Remember several months ago we had a fellow, a geologist here in the county who came and talked to us about the sea level rising in North Carolina and how that was going to impact the land here in Carteret County.  North Carolina wants the county to take action ahead of  time trying to make sure certain areas do not get developed because they anticipate these areas are going to be flooded.  There are 3 scenarios under the current level of sea rise along with the sinking of the eastern seaboard of eastern America that if all things remain the same, the sea rise will remain about one foot.  A second proposed idea was a two foot rise, if global warming happened faster than what they planned, based on some models.  And then there was a worse case scenario of a three foot rise.  The one that was adopted to be acted on was the worse case.  That affects a heck of a lot more land, so under that program chunks of Carteret County are being removed from future development.  And then we have all these different projects going on for beautification or esthetic green zones, or whatever, he sees the whole thing as a long term program to where we slowly build our own prison.  Every new thing that comes along that we approve (well that sounds good, we gotta save the horses, do this or what ever), then you reserve more and more land away from human use toward these other things; so you slowly over time compress into a smaller area where humans can participate; which is the whole purpose of Agenda 21.  Limit development to allow the wild life and the eco zones to spread and proliferate.  Not that he opposed to saving the wildlife.  It breaks his heart every time he sees a dead fox, raccoon, possum, etc. run over on the highway.  They are being forced out of the woods by development but at the same time, right now there is no shortage of foxes or possums.  He was just really appalled at the way Commissioner Lewis handled the situation and felt he could have been a little more tactful in addressing Nelson Paul’s concerns…and more specifically addressed the Scenic Byway as opposed to addressing Mr. Paul’s ranting.  Discussion followed on Commissioner Lewis’ attitude now.

BOB asked FRED hadn’t he offered to talk to Adele Collins about returning to speak with us.  He said he hadn’t realized BOB wanted him to ask her, but he would.  BOB said we just wanted to know why it was so difficult to get information.  HOWARD asked BOB if he had read Al Hill’s letter to the editor this past Sunday.  BOB said no he hadn’t.  Mr. Hill said in his letter that they had been very open in their discussions with the commissioners and he does not understand why the commissioners are acting like they are.  Since KEN LANG does not get the Carteret News Times, HOWARD is going to get PEGGY to scan the article on schools by Novey and Al’s letter to the editor and email them to him.  This is directly in opposition to what KEN has been getting.  More discussion followed on who would make good candidates to run for the Board of Education.  BOB asked if that was the article where they were still wanting more money and HOWARD said yes, it was on the front page of Sunday’s paper.  The $500,000.00 that the County Commissioners had put aside, was being demanded now to pay for teachers and assistants/bus drivers.

BOB asked DAVID COX what was going on at Atlantic Beach.  DAVIS said contrary to previous comments, there was no plan to build a town hall.  They like the town hall right where it currently is.  HOWARD said it was obvious that people were reading our minutes on the internet from the letters to the editor that referenced them.  BOB asked what was it that the current board wanted?  A waste water treatment facility or a new town hall.  DAVID said they didn’t want either one.  What they had been talking about was having something for the kids; since all the amusement areas had left.  That was why they were talking about a park, because the previous regime had done away with all the bumper cars, Jungle Land, etc.  There was nothing left for the kids to enjoy.  BOB asked who the Ocean 6 was.  When the current board ran previously that is what they called themselves.  They are trying to keep a group of 6 people who want to keep Atlantic Beach a small community, not another Myrtle Beach.  They are replacing one this year.  John Rivers, who came to one of their meetings a few months ago and they do have a vacancy in the group right now.

PEGGY GARNER said if those who read our minutes will take notice, then they can not say we are one sided.  If they notice in last week’s minutes we had a gentleman who spoke in favor of the two ladies who had come to our meeting a few weeks ago that were running to unseat some of the Ocean 6…and another gentleman who spoke in favor of the current board.  AND we did not come out in favor of either one.  We just listened to what they had to say.  She hopes when they read those minutes, they will see it that way; that the TEA Party tries to stay informed.  DAVID said he wasn’t sure but he thought the gentleman who spoke in favor of the two ladies was on the Atlantic Beach planning board.  He did not catch his name last week.  PEGGY looked it up in last weeks minutes and told DAVID the gentleman’s name was JOHN HOPKINS and he had said he was on the Planning Board.

WAYNE WILLIS said we have another problem with the game.  It seems to be jinxed.  Now Matt, the boy who was helping WAYNE complete the final inputs into the game, had a wreck last Saturday night and tore up his truck, so that has put a screeching halt to finishing up that project once again.

BOB told everyone who had not already picked up a copy of the Islamophobia booklet, to please pick one up on the way out.

BOB adjourned the meeting at 7:05pm.
Minutes submitted by PEGGY GARNER, Secretary